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TSR are at it again

So, GoS has been taken offline. Why? Someone at TSR wrote to their server, GoDaddy, and told them that GoS was redistributing copyrighted content. As per their procedures, GoDaddy has taken the site down for now. This kind of sucks for everyone at GoS, and yet again shows that those at TSR really have their heads firmly up their asses.

Information from jenfold's DW and nymphynymms's LJ. More here at PMBD too.

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strange_tomato
Apr. 30th, 2010 12:12 pm (UTC)
Forget death and taxes, the most certain thing in the Sims fandom is TSR wank.
cindyanne1
Apr. 30th, 2010 12:20 pm (UTC)
I don't understand why TSR just won't let go... I mean, okay... they made money by having us pay for some things. So, to continue making money, they copyrighted those things so, ideally, no one would be able to get them for free anywhere else. This is not how EA Games really wants things to be (after all, if anyone pays for content... it better be from EA Games itself, by God!)

But how does TSR expect to police every single website out there? I think it would get to be too much effort eventually. TSR, you had your day. Now just stop trying to hold onto everything and let it go... sheesh!
madame_ugly
Apr. 30th, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC)
Exactly.

If the sims2 fans can get a grip on the fact that the Golden Days have passed, the lame ass cc fan sites need to get with the program, too.

jenfold_sims
Apr. 30th, 2010 04:42 pm (UTC)
TSR seem to be having a slightly insane crackdown of sorts in the last few days. They've disabled direct linking to downloads so now all links to TSR redirect to their front page and they have started acting against picture hotlinkers with cheese, see this thread at PMBD:

http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1871.3225.html

They must have been lurking at GoS a lot recently as mediafire links in the TSR threads were dying very rapidly. I'm not sure what triggered the letter but like Nymphy and I have said Liegen and the mods are not prepared to roll over and die, GoS will be back soon.
simgarooop
Apr. 30th, 2010 06:24 pm (UTC)

I guess the lack of attention was affecting Thomas and Atwa, considering no one had mentioned anything about TSR since the massive information sharing wank from last year. No secrets, no discussions (well, except for the Newsea thing), it was as if they were gone for good (I wish!).

And considering that their specialty is to upset the Free-site side of the Sims community by targeting well known creators and forums, I am not surprised they did this.

I think they are doing this for attention and not because GOS were really affecting their sales. I wish that was the case, if course, but there are tons of people unaware that selling CC is illegal, so they stay within the EA-TSR circle and get their content from them. Man, are they missing some neat stuff!

(Anonymous)
May. 1st, 2010 02:36 pm (UTC)
I was having the same problem with TSR links taking me to their front page, but I discovered a way around it yesterday while using FireFox.

When you see a TSR link, right click on it and go to Copy Link Location. Then, paste the url in the browser window and click on the green arrow. You'll be able to go to the page you want at TSR. :)

(Thomas, it's so cute how you keep trying to foil us. *pat pat* However, like all your endeavors, it's made of FAIL).
austereacademy
Apr. 30th, 2010 09:40 pm (UTC)
Holyfuck. I know I was upset with GOS for awhile, but...this low, even for TSR. Why on earth are they running around shutting down paysites? GOS was one of the best out there.

Better question: Why is everyone turning a blind eye to TSR? They've stolen, they've hacked, and now this. There's no reason to get all Big Brother kill-them-all on us just because their (crappy) stuff is so damn important. Apparently there are no laws on the internet for punishing people who insist upon having their way at all costs. That information-sharing crap was beyond ridiculous.

If I may ask, is it possible to legally get GOS back without them having it shut down again? They seem almost ruthless at this point.
naughtydolphin
Apr. 30th, 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
I think the only ones to turn a blind eye to TSR's actions is TSR. Folks at LJ, GoS, MATY and PMBD certainly haven't forgotten.

AFAIK they'll be changing servers and putting everything back up soon.
quinctia
May. 1st, 2010 02:01 am (UTC)
Psh, the only reason GoS is down now is because GoDaddy is a fucking piece of shit host. They're known for being trigger happy, even when they've only been a domain name registrar for someone (registrars have no authority to pull your domain based on the content it's pointing towards, but GoDaddy has done it in the past).

Sure, it's shitty that it just happened now based on something from TSR, but it could have easily been anyone else--from a no-name paysite owner whinging to some annoyed ex-member making up a beef to get them TOS'ed. GoDaddy fucking sucks, end of story.

So I hope that TSR doesn't feel any sense of accomplishment. Any of us could have probably written something to GoDaddy and gotten the same effect, because GoDaddy SUCKS.
nameless_cricke
Apr. 30th, 2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
I was wondering what had happened. I didn't even guess it had to do with the TSR sharing and you thread. I'm just not cynical enough. Psssshhh, how could they claim copyright infringement with the EULA that Ea has?
....plus, I want to know why they rip the sites down as opposed to investigating the matter...
(Anonymous)
May. 1st, 2010 12:11 am (UTC)
Man, I'm glad I finally found this. I've been googling like crazy to figure out what was up.

I wish we could get some people from all these sites together in real life and figure this out proper. Online shit just turns into "he said/she said" and a whole lot of butthurt real quick. Communication with text is so... volatile. Sigh...

-AlfredAskew, who can't remember if she has a lj... :/
(Anonymous)
May. 1st, 2010 07:51 pm (UTC)
I wish we could get some people from all these sites together in real life and ... see a cage match!!!
maqui
May. 1st, 2010 02:14 am (UTC)
I actually was reading the thread on GoS about the letter Thomas had sent to GoDaddy as GoDaddy was taking the site down. However, as much as I'm appalled by the whole thing - they have no legal leg to stand on since you can't claim copyright on custom content going by the game's ToS in the first place, so GoDaddy really should have done some research, seriously - I can't say I'm surprised. It was only a matter of time before they went after GoS, since it's one of the biggest freesites out there. To them, it was probably the "best" big target to try for - they won't be able to make a dent on Pescado, so MATY and PMBD are out by default and if the repercussions from going after GoS are going to be bad, just imagine if they'd tried to take down MTS.

The thing is, the expectation was probably that the free community would sit there, twiddle its thumbs, and cry. I don't know if TSR didn't realize that GoS's mods get some help from Pescado as well as the fact that GoS is certainly not made up of people who call it quits after a setback. They'll be back - pretty quickly, from what I've read on PMBD - and it'll be with a vengeance. And TSR will have just turned more people towards filesharing in the process. Funny how that works; looks like their whole plan backfired.
crabofdoom
May. 3rd, 2010 01:14 am (UTC)
I'm just glad I'd read the threat topic on GoS, perhaps a couple of hours before the site went down. Now I can focus on just being pissed instead of pissed and panicked over what happened.

Speculation time: I was thinking that a contributing factor over why to bother raising a stink now maybe because T$R sank so much effort into switching over to TS3, which seems to be losing some steam (those who love it, love it, but those who were just testing it out seem to be dropping off, to me.) After taking a "fuck TS2 and on with the future!" stance, they probably didn't expect that the TS2 stuff was still going to be popular for this long. Now that the TS3 content isn't pulling in quite the same numbers (or just not what they'd anticipated) and there's still a hefty audience for TS2 content, it's scramble time to make sure they're bleeding it for every cent they can, and renewing efforts to make sure they're the only source of the files.

Or it really did take their 'intelligence' this long to notice the off-site file sharing. I can see either argument.
(Anonymous)
May. 3rd, 2010 10:51 am (UTC)
I don't think their "intelligence" had anything to do with it...just that it took this long for them to get this desperate, but you're probably right about the drop off in interest in TS3. I've read an awful lot of comments on the S3 forum that seem to indicate people are just getting fed up generally with the crap stemming from the basic unplayability of the game with all the patches. EA still doesn't get it, and it looks like they're just pushing people away with their silence on the problems with the game itself.
There comes a time when you just give up on a game when it just won't work the way you envisioned it, and it's just too much bother to try.
TS2 is the known safe quantity, and now more popular. The downloads are just as much in demand as they ever were, if not more so.
But that does not justify in any way the actions of asshattery that Thomas & crew have been doing. It's inexcusable and indefensible on any level.
jenfold_sims
May. 3rd, 2010 01:50 pm (UTC)
I just thought I'd drop by to pass on the message that fittingly the GoS sims 2 theme for May is going to be the Apocalypse.

The forum is not back up yet, we're working on it, but in the meantime we thought that people might like to start thinking about it/making stuff with the extra free time that having no forum has left them.
jenfold_sims
May. 6th, 2010 06:36 am (UTC)
Since I'm sure a few people may be looking at this post for updates, GoS is back and the web address for it remains the same. See you there.
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